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		<title>By: Greg Pass</title>
		<link>http://unurthed.com/2008/01/15/a-geometric-gesture/comment-page-1/#comment-1188</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Pass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 14:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Junior &#8212;

All my posts include references to the source material and related web sites. Dig in!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Junior &mdash;</p>
<p>All my posts include references to the source material and related web sites. Dig in!</p>
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		<title>By: Junior</title>
		<link>http://unurthed.com/2008/01/15/a-geometric-gesture/comment-page-1/#comment-1181</link>
		<dc:creator>Junior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 23:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys just like to say that I am deeply taken by what you are talking about here, I do not fully understand but would love to learn more, if you can I would like maybe a list of books or website that I can look at.

Thanks

Jounior</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys just like to say that I am deeply taken by what you are talking about here, I do not fully understand but would love to learn more, if you can I would like maybe a list of books or website that I can look at.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Jounior</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Pass</title>
		<link>http://unurthed.com/2008/01/15/a-geometric-gesture/comment-page-1/#comment-322</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Pass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen &#8212;

Thanks for this.

The palpable (to borrow your word) difference between analytical and contemplative geometry surprises me every time: a little jolt when thinking-awareness turns to feeling-awareness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen &mdash;</p>
<p>Thanks for this.</p>
<p>The palpable (to borrow your word) difference between analytical and contemplative geometry surprises me every time: a little jolt when thinking-awareness turns to feeling-awareness.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Fitz-Gerald</title>
		<link>http://unurthed.com/2008/01/15/a-geometric-gesture/comment-page-1/#comment-303</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Fitz-Gerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 07:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Visceral Learning &quot;is the term I apply to the aforementioned phenomena. The ancients knew there was something intrinsically contained WITHIN THE ACT ITSELF of making the models,and thus any serious neophyte was required to do so.
 As my previous post illustrated, in regards to squaring the circle,I found another layer of meaning that emerged only upon fabricating the bronze cube within the stainless sphere and just simply being with it for a few days (much physical contact as well).
  I realize the original exercise was a two dimensional effort,but I am not particularly good at following rules where my curiosity is concerned...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Visceral Learning &#8220;is the term I apply to the aforementioned phenomena. The ancients knew there was something intrinsically contained WITHIN THE ACT ITSELF of making the models,and thus any serious neophyte was required to do so.<br />
 As my previous post illustrated, in regards to squaring the circle,I found another layer of meaning that emerged only upon fabricating the bronze cube within the stainless sphere and just simply being with it for a few days (much physical contact as well).<br />
  I realize the original exercise was a two dimensional effort,but I am not particularly good at following rules where my curiosity is concerned&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Mistero</title>
		<link>http://unurthed.com/2008/01/15/a-geometric-gesture/comment-page-1/#comment-121</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Mistero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 08:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I did the experiment (successfully).
How else can one hope to understand?
Knowledge is one thing,
Understanding another.
All understanding, bar none,
requires 3 components:
body, feeling, and mind.

Three in one, in the present moment.

Regards

A. M.


PS Allow me to emendate one word in your reply:
-it applies to many of the arts-
should be replaced with
-it applies to all of the arts-

There is only one Art, with so many faces:

The Great Hermetic Art
of the Perfect Gesture</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I did the experiment (successfully).<br />
How else can one hope to understand?<br />
Knowledge is one thing,<br />
Understanding another.<br />
All understanding, bar none,<br />
requires 3 components:<br />
body, feeling, and mind.</p>
<p>Three in one, in the present moment.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>A. M.</p>
<p>PS Allow me to emendate one word in your reply:<br />
-it applies to many of the arts-<br />
should be replaced with<br />
-it applies to all of the arts-</p>
<p>There is only one Art, with so many faces:</p>
<p>The Great Hermetic Art<br />
of the Perfect Gesture</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Pass</title>
		<link>http://unurthed.com/2008/01/15/a-geometric-gesture/comment-page-1/#comment-120</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Pass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 02:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. M &#8212;

Thanks for de-lurking.

How heartening to hear you DID the experiment!  And then properly realized the connection between &quot;the mind and the hand&quot;.

The PHYSICAL gesture is a doorway &#8212; through perception, through awareness of the ACT &#8212; to an &quot;understanding&quot; of MIND, SPIRIT.

AVB called this initiation &quot;the contact of stylus with plane&quot; within the context of geometry. But it applies to many of the arts we&#039;ve discussed: taiji form, yiquan standing, alchemical laboratory, hex, yantra. All negotiate an immediate physical context within which to penetrate.

Of course, it&#039;s a lot more WORK to do it this way...

PMac &#8212;

Beaten to the punch, for once! I&#039;ve added Goldian to the queue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. M &mdash;</p>
<p>Thanks for de-lurking.</p>
<p>How heartening to hear you DID the experiment!  And then properly realized the connection between &#8220;the mind and the hand&#8221;.</p>
<p>The PHYSICAL gesture is a doorway &mdash; through perception, through awareness of the ACT &mdash; to an &#8220;understanding&#8221; of MIND, SPIRIT.</p>
<p>AVB called this initiation &#8220;the contact of stylus with plane&#8221; within the context of geometry. But it applies to many of the arts we&#8217;ve discussed: taiji form, yiquan standing, alchemical laboratory, hex, yantra. All negotiate an immediate physical context within which to penetrate.</p>
<p>Of course, it&#8217;s a lot more WORK to do it this way&#8230;</p>
<p>PMac &mdash;</p>
<p>Beaten to the punch, for once! I&#8217;ve added Goldian to the queue.</p>
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		<title>By: Polymathicus</title>
		<link>http://unurthed.com/2008/01/15/a-geometric-gesture/comment-page-1/#comment-119</link>
		<dc:creator>Polymathicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me this post was a double happy surprise:

1) I see you are NOT wasting your precious time in 2008
(veering to EXPERIENCE is always a good move)

2) Seeing my old acquaintance Tony Mistero&#039;s comment here was even more of a shock. As he has qualified me as verbose (and correct he is, although someone has to DO the talking, right? Not to mention that his own comment is not exactly a 2 liner.), I shall refrain from my usual, long comments (also because he has made the case already).

Just a small note: Andre &amp; Goldian are a prototypical, almost ICONIC,  hermetic couple (they are all modeled after that most sublime of them all, the legendary Nicolas Flames and his &quot;wife&quot; Perrenelle, yet another &quot;field trip&quot;, to Paris, this time).

Andre&#039;s talents are perfectly matched by his wife&#039;s hand and skills. She too has a book on sacred geometry,
less abstract but by no means useless:

www.amazon.com/Gothic-High-Meditations-Construction-Cathedrals/dp/0940262525/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1200496325&amp;sr=1-2

Worth a look.

My Very Best

PolyMathicus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me this post was a double happy surprise:</p>
<p>1) I see you are NOT wasting your precious time in 2008<br />
(veering to EXPERIENCE is always a good move)</p>
<p>2) Seeing my old acquaintance Tony Mistero&#8217;s comment here was even more of a shock. As he has qualified me as verbose (and correct he is, although someone has to DO the talking, right? Not to mention that his own comment is not exactly a 2 liner.), I shall refrain from my usual, long comments (also because he has made the case already).</p>
<p>Just a small note: Andre &amp; Goldian are a prototypical, almost ICONIC,  hermetic couple (they are all modeled after that most sublime of them all, the legendary Nicolas Flames and his &#8220;wife&#8221; Perrenelle, yet another &#8220;field trip&#8221;, to Paris, this time).</p>
<p>Andre&#8217;s talents are perfectly matched by his wife&#8217;s hand and skills. She too has a book on sacred geometry,<br />
less abstract but by no means useless:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Gothic-High-Meditations-Construction-Cathedrals/dp/0940262525/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1200496325&#038;sr=1-2" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Gothic-High-Meditations-Construction-Cathedrals/dp/0940262525/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1200496325&#038;sr=1-2</a></p>
<p>Worth a look.</p>
<p>My Very Best</p>
<p>PolyMathicus</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Mistero</title>
		<link>http://unurthed.com/2008/01/15/a-geometric-gesture/comment-page-1/#comment-118</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Mistero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 11:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the first time I post a comment here (I do it very seldom anywhere,to be sure), but by  no means my first visit (I sometimes follow the track of my verbose friend PolyMathicus. Our interests partially overlap).

From your previous post, &quot;Squaring the Circle&quot;, I got something of great value. While I was doing the construction, I realized that the very act of going through the steps with the mind and the hand was conducive to the proper meditative state for absorbing the necessary hermetic experience (in that case, squaring the circle).

Although I always knew that hermetic diagrams are alive, I also understood well that they must be drawn
to be properly absorbed, for the reason specified above.

As clearly stated by AVB, practical philosophical geoemetry is, first and foremost, a practice. An exploration, an experiment, in which the subject is actively involved.

May the Ones-Who-Know-And-Are help us unravel the misteries of Sacred Geometry

Regards

Anthony Mistero</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the first time I post a comment here (I do it very seldom anywhere,to be sure), but by  no means my first visit (I sometimes follow the track of my verbose friend PolyMathicus. Our interests partially overlap).</p>
<p>From your previous post, &#8220;Squaring the Circle&#8221;, I got something of great value. While I was doing the construction, I realized that the very act of going through the steps with the mind and the hand was conducive to the proper meditative state for absorbing the necessary hermetic experience (in that case, squaring the circle).</p>
<p>Although I always knew that hermetic diagrams are alive, I also understood well that they must be drawn<br />
to be properly absorbed, for the reason specified above.</p>
<p>As clearly stated by AVB, practical philosophical geoemetry is, first and foremost, a practice. An exploration, an experiment, in which the subject is actively involved.</p>
<p>May the Ones-Who-Know-And-Are help us unravel the misteries of Sacred Geometry</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Anthony Mistero</p>
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